Step-By-Step Guide: How To Build a Gaming PC With AMD's Bulldozer CPU
Step-By-Step Guide: How To Build a Gaming PC With AMD's Bulldozer CPU
Posted 02/09/2012 at 1:57pm
| by Nathan Edwards
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The Mission
AMD’s Bulldozer architecture finally hit retail in October 2011, and Gordon put the highest-performing chip, the FX-8150, through the wringer. His conclusion: It’s a decent competitor to Intel’s i5-2500K, but no match for the (much more expensive) Sandy Bridge-E or 2600K parts. And that’s OK; there are plenty of reasons to want a solid midrange performer. Maybe you really, really want to be able to say you have an eight-core processor. Maybe you’re opposed to Intel for religious reasons. Or maybe you just want real PCIe x16 lanes without having to put out for the pricey X79 platform.
Whatever your reason, an FX-8150 can be a respectable foundation for a solid gaming rig since modern gaming is still more about the GPU than the CPU. In this article, we'll give you a step-by-step walkthrough of our build--if you're wondering how to build a killer gaming PC of your own, read on!
A previous version of this article incorrectly said we used 38GB of RAM. Maximum PC regrets the error.
Building from the CPU Out
Central to my build, of course, is AMD’s top-tier Bulldozer part, the 3.6GHz FX-8150. It’ll rest in Asus’s Sabertooth 990FX motherboard, which has USB 3.0, six SATA 6Gb/s ports, and plenty of PCIe x16 lanes. The 990FX isn’t markedly different from 890FX except for one glaring change: Board vendors are now offering SLI “support” (read unlock codes) in the BIOS. I was originally going to use Cooler Master’s Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler, but in the course of overclocking I decided to swap it out for AMD’s Asetek-built Bulldozer FX liquid cooler, which bears a very strong resemblance to Antec’s Kuhler 920.
To keep things in the AMD house and at the $1,500 price point, my graphics card of choice is the Radeon HD 6970. It’s got enough juice to power any game on the market at reasonable settings, and at $330 it fits well with my budget without being a budget card.
NZXT’s just-launched Phantom 410 is a smaller version of the original Phantom, with a few more fans and USB 3.0 support. Corsair’s TX750 v2 PSU is more than enough power for my overclocks and any extra graphics cards I want to add later.
The one wild card in my build is the hard drive. Thanks to the still-ongoing Thailand floods, the price of a 750GB 2.5-inch hybrid drive is (at press time) only a little more than a 1TB 3.5-inch drive. The 8GB of NAND cache on the Momentus XT gives a performance boost to my most frequently accessed sectors of the disk, so boot and oft-used programs will be faster.
Assembling the Hardware
Step 1: Prep the Board
To install the CPU, lift the socket arm and gently lower the CPU into place, making sure the triangle on the CPU’s corner is aligned with the correct corner in the socket. Lower the lever back into place. Install the RAM into the second and fourth slots (the tan ones).
Step 2: Prep the Case and Install Motherboard
Before we start building into the case, it’s time to move some fans. Remove the side, top, and front panels from the case, then remove the rear 12cm exhaust fan and top 14cm exhaust fan. This will involve unplugging them from their fan controller connectors behind the motherboard tray. Use the long screws provided to install the 12cm fan in the front of the case, directly above the existing intake fan. Reconnect it to one of the fan control connectors behind the motherboard tray. Set aside the 14cm fan and its screws for now.
Install the motherboard standoffs in standard ATX configuration, put the motherboard I/O shield in place, then install the motherboard in the case.
Step 3: Install the CPU Cooler
If you’re getting flashbacks to last month, I don’t blame you. AMD’s Bulldozer-branded liquid-cooling system is built by Asetek, the same OEM who makes Intel’s RST2011LC liquid cooler, and is, in fact, nearly identical to the Asetek-made Antec Kuhler 920.
The instructions say to install the cooling fans as intakes, but we’re going to use ours as exhaust. Attach one fan to the inside of the cooler, then attach the other through the exhaust fan mounts to the radiator (image D). Run the radiator fans’ power cables behind the motherboard tray.
Next, assemble the cooler mounting bracket as shown in AMD’s instructions and clip it to the CPU heatsink.
Unscrew the four screws attaching AMD’s cooling mount to the backplate and remove the plastic mounts. Mount the CPU cooler/pump unit to the AMD backplate, tightening the mounting screws in an X-shaped pattern.
Attach the 3-pin pump power cable to the CPU_FAN header and run the radiator fan Y-connector behind the motherboard tray to the radiator fan cables. Run the USB 2.0 cable behind the motherboard tray to the bottom of the motherboard and connect it to a USB 2.0 header).
Install the GPU in to the topmost x16 PCIe slot.
Step 4: Install the Drives
Remove the top optical drive bezel and replace the case’s front panel. Slide the optical drive into that bay and secure it with the toolless mechanism. Add thumbscrews if you like. Take a hard drive tray from the cage and remove the mounting posts from the sides. Install the Momentus XT using the 2.5-inch mounting holes on the bottom of the tray. Replace in bay.
Step 5: Install the PSU
Install the power supply into the case with the fan facing down. Bring the dual-4-pin ATX auxiliary power cable, 24-pin ATX power cable, and two 6-pin PCIe power cables through the cutout nearest the PSU to the back of the motherboard tray. Bring the auxiliary ATX power cable through the opening at the top of the motherboard tray and connect it (image I). Bring the 24-pin motherboard power cable through the top side cutout and connect it, then connect the 6-pin PCIe connectors to the GPU—one will require the use of the 2-pin connector, as well.
Step 6: Finish the Wiring
Replace the top 14cm fan, but flip it around so that it’s used as an intake fan rather than exhaust. This will keep the motherboard voltage regulators under the radiator from overheating.
Connect the fan power lead to one of the fan controller connectors behind the motherboard tray.
Connect the front-panel connector power and LED switches to the board, as well as the HD Audio, USB 2.0, and USB 3.0 connectors. Connect SATA power and data cables to the optical and hard drives, then connect 6Gb/s SATA cables from the drives to the lowest set of SATA ports on the motherboard.
Use zip ties to tie excess fan controller connectors and case wiring to the rear of the motherboard tray. Bundle the unused power connectors here as well, if you can fit them.
Step 6: Into the BIOS
At this point you should connect your monitor, mouse, and keyboard and turn on the rig. Enter the BIOS’s Advanced Mode, go to Boot, and deselect “Wait for F1 on Error.” This will prevent the system from hanging up due to a perceived fan-speed error from the pump. Exit out of the BIOS, and install Windows and your drivers as normal, making sure to install the ChillControl software for the CPU cooler.
Once Windows is set up and working, it’s time to tweak the CPU a little bit. Bulldozer parts seem to vary in their overclocking stability: After many overly ambitious overclocks, I got to 4.2GHz, mostly by upping the CPU multiplier, but I’ve seen overclocks of over 4.8GHz with the same CPU and motherboard, so your mileage may vary.
Middle-Class Dreams Acquired
Given that Gordon had already benchmarked the FX-8150, I wasn’t expecting miracles, and I didn’t get them. The Bulldozer rig pulled down respectable scores for a $1,500 rig, but I didn’t really see any benefit from eight cores at 4.2GHz that wasn’t exceeded by a quad-core i7-920 at 3.5GHz. I was really surprised by both the difficulty of maintaining a stable overclock and the lack of oomph I got when I did manage to overclock.
After spending hours trying to stabilize my Bulldozer system at 4.8GHz and 4.6GHz, both of which I’d seen run on the same motherboard with the same processor, I had to lower my sights a little. I finally settled on a stable 4.2GHz—17 percent faster than stock. On CPU-bound benchmarks, though, like Vegas Pro and MainConcept Reference, I saw less than a 10 percent improvement over the FX-8150 at stock, and the other benchmarks showed even less improvement. FX-8150 chips seem to be variable in their tolerance for overclocks, so you might have better luck.
Of course, the lower scores on encoding tests could also have to do with my boot drive. I normally prefer to run with an SSD boot drive, but I went with a hybrid drive this time. The disk access speed and slower-than-solid-state write speeds doubtless affected the encoding tests, which all involve reading and writing large files to the disk.
That said, Bulldozer does offer better thermal performance. My FX-8150 never got above 55 C, even running Prime95 at 4.2GHz, which is far lower than we’d see from the overclocked i7-920 in our zero-point test bed.
If your budget allows for it, you may want to go for a multi-GPU setup. Unlike Sandy Bridge motherboards, which can run two x16 PCIe videocards but only at x8, the Sabretooth 990FX can run them at their full x16 speed. Does it really make a big difference? In the vast majority of cases no, but hell, you can at least rub it in the noses of your friends running at x8 speeds.
For a $1,500 machine, the Bulldozer rig does offer a lot of performance, although unless you’re running heavily multithreaded applications you probably won’t notice the difference between its eight cores and a decent quad-core—especially if the quad has Hyper-Threading. At this point, diehard AMD fans will probably just be happy to hear that a Bulldozer-powered rig holds its own at its price point. A Bulldozer rig isn’t the fastest money can buy, but for the price, you get a lot of cores, decent performance, and full PCIe lanes to grown into.
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darkstar59102
March 02, 2012 at 8:35am
I have the 8150 black chip in my custom system built out of a Digital storm Syndicate case with the new water block for the am3+ chip. With this set up i am able to run the chip to 5.2 ghz at about 13c. that is hot even for a zero cool system but it will out pace a 2600k Oc all day. I do understand that my rig is expensive but the potential for this cpu is a lot higher than most people would expect for the price of this cpu.
Gigabyte Socket AM3+ GA-990FXA-UD7
amd fx 8150
Corsair - 16GB KIT 4X4GB PC3-16000 - 2000MHZ DDR3 CL10 VENGEANCE Memory
XFX - FX-797A-TNFC ATI Radeon HD7970 3GB X2
Hitachi - 0S03230 Hitachi Deskstar IDK 3TB Cool Spin SATA 6GBps X3 raid 5
Corsair - Force Series F180 CORSAIR PERFORMANCE 3 SERIES 2.5' 128GB SATA III MLC SSD X3 raid 5
SlaughterALL
February 28, 2012 at 12:07pm
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
The above link takes you to an Intel i5 that is CHEAPER and is just 0.3 GHz slower (almost no perceivable difference in speed I bet, esp. with turbo boost).
While I realize the whole point of this article is to build an AMD rig, I have to ask why? Yes, AMD is sometimes useful if you are really strapped for cash, but if you are going to spend around $260 on a CPU why would you want to buy a bulldozer CPU (which singly-handedly tanked people's opinion of AMD) instead of a much-loved i5-2500K (which, because of the "K", you can overclock to 4+GHz)? Besides making a bulldozer rig so you can report on it, I wonder who in their right mind would want to build such a computer?
chop_slap
March 21, 2012 at 7:28am
Harsh words for AMD, but its the truth. They've got to step it up.
k7k8
February 23, 2012 at 12:25pm
You better super cool this chip.Or send it back while you still can.
That is why the press kit included a water cooler.
My fx 8150 booted fine ,but would internally over heat on air cooling.
It breaks my heart, but I sent mine back and will use X6 p2's for my builds -until this chip is revised.
Newegg took it back two months out of warranty ,when I called they said the only reason they were taking it back -is this is the second call this morning- about mysterious black screen issues.
Sorry to rain on the parade,but you will see this issue come to light.
I trust max pc to get to the bottom of this eventually.
Sorry to break the news to you.
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SlaughterALL
February 28, 2012 at 12:08pm
ironically, you seem complain of the very thing of which you are guilty.
Typo91
February 15, 2012 at 3:08am
Am I the only one to see a problem with choosing a 2.5in Hard disk for a desktop??
REally???
2.5in drives have less Warranty, higher failure rates, less performance, and are more expensive than 3.5in drives.Why on earth pay more for less when physical size and power use aren't an issue?
238 bucks for less then a Terabyte?
Also that seagate drive line has had a bad history of being problematic.
please tell me you guys didn't sell out
Kinetic
February 13, 2012 at 3:00pm
I have to be honest, the first thing I thought when I read "How to build a Bulldozer gaming PC" was "Why would you want to?"
Assuming you're going in with a clean slate and no PC or just a case and PSU, that much green could net you a really awesome Sandybridge or Sandybrigde-E gaming PC that will outclass this by a long shot. Of course, the tradeoff will be that you're stuck with Intel's constant motherboard refreshes, and as such will likely have to buy a new motherboard the next time you want to upgrade your CPU.
If you're like me and already have an AMD PC with an AM3+ compatible mobo there's still not a huge reason to go with Bulldozer for gaming over a Phenom II 970/975/980 or 1100T other than a slight boost in physics performance, and in my opinion even that isn't worth the price difference.This is just my opinion though.
ashinms
February 13, 2012 at 3:21pm
"Assuming you're going in with a clean slate and no PC or just a case and PSU, that much green could net you a really awesome Sandybridge or Sandybrigde-E gaming PC that will outclass this by a long shot."
No, it wouldn't.
Kinetic
February 13, 2012 at 8:17pm
It wouldn't? Well, here's the part list from a build I did for a friend, with the PSU, GPU and HDD swapped out for the corsair, 6970, and seagate used in this:
Case- Antec 300 illusion, $69.99
GPU- XFX 6970, $349.99
Mobo- MSI P67A-GD80, $199.99
CPU- i72600k, $329.99
RAM- 4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600- $53.98
PSU- Corsair TX750. 104.99
HDD- Seagate momentus 750GB, $178.99
OS- Win 7 OEM, $99.99
DVD Drive- LG OEM, $16.99That comes out to a hundred dollars less $1404.90, and there are also $70 worth of rebates combined right now on Newegg for that setup. Sure you take a hit on the amount of RAM you have, but the trade off is worth it in my opinion.
Now here's a performance comparison between the FX-8150 and a 2600k:
http://guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150--8120-6100-and-4100-performance-review/10
maverick knight
February 11, 2012 at 3:25am
This asrticle was good in a way that we can see the results and make adjustment when buying parts. I agree that for $1,500 it is possible to build a better rig. Spending $100 for a liquid cooler is overkill for just a mere 4.2Ghz so choosing a Hyper 212 Plus can save another $70. It is nice to show the love for Bulldozer for once.
Off-topic, Intel made me a believer with Sandy Bridge so I will stick with itell until AMD turn the table around. I am also an Nvidia owner but not because I believe their gpus are better. The more research I did the more evident the fact that both Nvidia and AMD are fairly even in performance. Driver updates was what tip the balance for Nvidia.
JP
February 10, 2012 at 5:59pm
Nice build, neat products, decent performance. BUT, I have searched all over for info on the AMD cooling system and the only place I found anything was on Asetek's web site; and then it was pretty pictures and information, but no place to buy the item, not even from them.
And 35 minutes of searching AMD's site was almost enough to make me switch to Intel: Nothing, not a word about the cooling system. Nathan, next time how about telling us where we, the consumers, can buy things like this as the reference to the AMD site was more then useless.
thechipper
February 12, 2012 at 8:55pm
H70 is basically the same performance out of a contained liquid cooler if you're looking for one and it runs you about $80. Definitely a good investment for an overclocker, or even the H100 for $20 more.
JP
February 13, 2012 at 11:01pm
theChipper, thanks for the reply. Currently running a Phenom X4 9950BE and using a Corsair H50. The H50 has been a great cooler; of course the 70 and 100 came out within weeks of my installing the 50.
I am not a complete AMD fanboy, but all of my personal builds have been with AMD. Would love to do an i7 3960 or even a 2600K build (I've even priced out parts and made wish lists) but money-wise I will probably have to settle for a Bulldozer. If AMD wants to sell me liquid cooling that is so much the better-but somebody has to have it available at least so a person can price it. At least the Bulldozers come with heatsink/fan; the i39XX don't.
I will look at the H70-I understand that the radiator is larger then my H50-but the next cooling upgrade I am doing is adding another fan to my H50 radiator.
aldenf
February 10, 2012 at 8:44am
Thanks for the article, Nathan. Builds with the new FX procs seem to be few and far between in the press today. While not knowing anyone who has built an FX rig, it's great to know others' experience.
I only question the logic/wisdom in choosing the platform. I just speced a rig at Newegg using their regular prices (no sales or rebates). GIGABYTE GA-Z68MX-UD2H-B3, i7-2600K, Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB, HIS IceQ Turbo H697QT2G2M Radeon HD 6970 2GB, Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB). Add a $100 case, $25 DVD-RW, $100 PSU, $40 cpu cooler and $100 for OEM Win7 and you have a 2600k, system w/ 256 GB SSD for well under $1500.
Although an AMD fan, this is where I would put my money (over $1000) at the moment.
Just sayin'...
thetechchild
February 10, 2012 at 1:18am
AMD isn't really competing with Intel's offerings at this point. Even the 2500K can beat the FX8150!
Ivy Bridge (supposedly releasing in April) will be replacing Sandy Bridge at that price point, but offers better integrated graphics, 22nm die shrink, their 3D trigate tech, and PCIE3 support. Meanwhile, AMD won't be releasing Vishera (their followup to Zambezi) until much later this year (Q3). Sure, it'll have 10 cores and quad-channel DDR3, but honestly, I doubt it'll manage to come close to the performance leaps of Ivy Bridge, and that's considering that AMD's current lineup is losing Sandy Bridge.
Unless AMD pulls off a monumental performance increase (30-50%), there's almost no way it'll manage to compete with Ivy Bridge this year, and that doesn't seem very likely at all at the moment.
ashinms
February 10, 2012 at 9:15am
No, Visheral will only have 8 cores. Per core is between 25 to 35 percent faster, not counting the advantage quad channel brings.
DarkMatter
February 09, 2012 at 9:57pm
~feh ~Just build the damned PC for those that just need a computer.. Intel, AMD ... they both work... Nice build nice board .. sorry the processor came in 800million short .. but it's still good for something.
Ghost XFX
February 09, 2012 at 7:06pm
Well, who would have thought that 15 of the 19 comments made were from Intel trolls...
nbrowser
February 09, 2012 at 6:26pm
Yaknow, when Athlon 64X2 was kicking Intel hiney, I was impresssed by AMD....then came along the chance to pick up a LGA 755 board with SLI support and 4 gigs of memory for cheap, so I go for it, drop in an understated Wolfdale based E7200 into it and watch it blow the doors odd my Athlon II X2 7750 BS which was overclocked to 3Ghz.
Fast forward 3 years, the old SLI board still runs with a Q9400 in it, but the main system runs (taking into account exchange rate of the day when I bought it) a similarly priced i7 950 decked with a maxed RAM amount, overclocked to 4Ghz, and makes the FX8150 look slow.
Next time AMD says they got the next Intel killer coming I'll simply yawn. With so much hype about Bulldozer pre-release and it coming up real short in real world testing.
And Nathan, this article just solidifies the fact, sure you can build a zippy system but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say not a killer system. I still run my 7750 BE as a WHS box, sadly it can't do my bidding any other useful way when it's surrounded by Intel chips in the LAN.
And for $1,500 up here in Canada, I can assemble a kick ass i5 2500K system, with an SSD overclock the hell out of it and be happy. With a 580 no less :)
yu119995
February 10, 2012 at 8:22am
"Next time AMD says they got the next Intel killer coming I'll simply yawn. With so much hype about Bulldozer pre-release and it coming up real short in real world testing. "
Show me that direct quote from AMD please. Exactly.
chipmunkofdoom2
February 09, 2012 at 2:42pm
LOL at them being lazy and scanning the magazine article when there was a TYPO!
Also, lol at the expensive mobo, case, and PSU going into this single CPU, ridiculous hard drive, and single GPU "budget" build. You could build a comparable machine for a few hundred less if you're smarter about your parts.
Bravo again, Max PC, for a somewhat satisfactory article.
thechipper
February 12, 2012 at 9:06pm
I have to disagree with you in a few places. The Sabertooth series motherboards are actually pulling out better oc benchmarks than any other boards right now. ROG may be more OC friendly to the professional OCer but for a home user Sabertooth is where its at.
After using the Corsair TX series I know they are dead quiet, incredibly reliable and are modular to boot.The case is really a personal choice. I have built 3 PC's with this same case and find it to be a treat to work with. It offers cable hiding, variable fan speed controllers for 5 fans and looks great.
I have to agree with you on the HD though. SSDs are pretty cheap now. Could just go ahead and spend the $120 and get one for the build.
Supall
February 09, 2012 at 2:42pm
I wouldn't have gone with the $100 cooler, but it works. I'm curious as to why you went with Patriot, however. A lot of other choices out there for $50 for 2x4GB. So why choose Patriot?
Also, I don't like that case. For $100, it's a good buy. But with the extra money saved from going with a cheaper cooler, I would've gotten an Antec P280.
Wingzero_x
February 10, 2012 at 1:54am
Well you know how it is, friend asks you to fix their computer, and since you know they have no intention of paying you anyway. So just take a stick or two of RAM they won't miss it. Eventually you'll be sporting 38GB or more....Gotta get paid some way you know.
Roots
February 09, 2012 at 2:33pm
secound of all, its patriotmemory.com not www.patriot.com
Also, wy would you waist 100$ on water cooler where you can get a coolermaster Hyper 212+ for less then 30?
and lastly the 28gb of ram [unless he ment 32] is'nt listed anywhere and the 1333 version is listed on newegg for 259$, but if it was a typo, disregard. I build computers for the hell of it, and i dont see any reason wy to pay more to get more then 8gb if your not a power user. On a side note, i built a computer recently for a price similar to that. Gotta be weary of the HDD price tought, idd rather have an ssd + hdd then a bigg ass graphic card.
nsvander
February 09, 2012 at 3:32pm
Actually if you buy the 8150 FX Black Edition, it comes from AMD with the water cooler.
Roots
February 09, 2012 at 10:14pm
just check this picture out, i unboxed it, its the black edition, altought idd agree that there must be a version out there with it in the box, but not the one i had. Beside youdd probly be paying 100$ anyways so might haswell shave off the cost off most you can, from what i been getting from building computers water coolers arent worth it if your not going to overclock, and even then there are air coolers that can do the job pretty good. Over all, i wouldn't fallow this guide to the letter, it all depends on your needs.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/topgun228/28b6469b.jpg
Stry8993
February 09, 2012 at 2:29pm
I went up from a Phenom II X4 965 BE OC'd to 3.8GHz, to a Core i5 2500K OC'd to 4.7GHz, and I'll never go back.
I love AMD, and I root for the Underdog, I'd love to see the day when AMD took it to Intel again like they did with the AMD FX to the P4's.
But a faster build with the 2500K can be had for much cheaper, and in 98% of Benchmarks and real world applications the 2500K beats the 8150 thoroughly.
I would not spend more, to get less.
chipmunkofdoom2
February 09, 2012 at 2:42pm
Post your parts, prices and vendors or you're wrong. And no, rebates don't count. MSRP to MSRP, comparable AMD systems are much cheaper. You can get any system cheaper than competing MSRPs when you make a full time job out of watching the deal sites and cutting out/ mailing in rebates, but the same is true if you look for AMD parts VS Intel parts.
SlaughterALL
February 28, 2012 at 12:20pm
Why the hell do you think AMD CPUs are cheaper? It's because they cannot compete with Intel. If they could, you could bet the max difference between 2 similar CPUs would be $20.
That said, I do hope AMD does better, because if they don't no one will be able to compete with Intel and thus Intel will not have to innovate as much or price competitively.
mellamojay
February 09, 2012 at 4:21pm
BTW lets ignore the fact that this VERY RECENT $1,500 gaming rig is SLOWER than that 3+ year old reference test-bed system that could be built for FAR less money. AMD has failed and needs to either get it together to compete or leave the performance segment to companies who can.
mellamojay
February 09, 2012 at 4:16pm
Are you high bro? Intel 2500k destroys the amd FX-8150 in almost all real world scenarios and its cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671&IsNodeId=1&srchInDesc=fx-8150&page=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=343%7C19-115-072%5E19-115-072-TS%2C19-103-960%5E19-103-960-TSintel i5-2500K = 229.99
AMD FX-8150 = 269.99Motherboards are irrelivant and all other components can be equivalent. You have no idea what you are talking about.... The ONLY people who are building on this platform are either magazines that have to cater to AMD fan boys, AMD fan boys themselves, or uneducated people who just see that its the newest processor thats been released thats not 300 - 1000k dollars
yu119995
February 10, 2012 at 8:24am
How the fuck are motherboards irrelevant? You need to make a dumber statement.
agello24
February 09, 2012 at 10:07pm
8 is always better than 4, 6 is better than 4. can u allocate 8 or 6 diferent cpu task on a 4 core intel chip? u dont have to be high and benchmark crazy to know 8 is more than 4 regardless to what a benchie says.
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